[HamWAN PSDR] Cell Sites on DNR Towers

Bart Kus me at bartk.us
Tue Oct 19 11:18:30 PDT 2021

It seems we're being forced to decom 3 more sites.  Does anyone have 
storage space available for all the equipment coming down?  I don't.


On 10/19/2021 8:35 AM, John D. Hays wrote:
> About 10 years ago, DNR was going to start charging amateur repeaters 
> commercial rates to use DNR sites.  I recall there was an active 
> information campaign to the legislature and the legislature instructed 
> DNR to maintain the amateur radio rates.  I recall ARRL was involved 
> as well.  What has been done with your legislators and the Governor's 
> office to see what they are willing to do?
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 11:05 PM Jamie Owens <jlowens76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>     Maybe also throw in HamWAN Cam's helped catch a wildfire early on.
>     http://www.arrl.org/news/ham-radio-wireless-network-camera-detects-washington-wildfire
>     Sad things like this go un-noticed/recognized
>     On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 10:19 PM Dale Skyllingstad
>     <dskyllingstad at harbornet.com> wrote:
>         This is very unfortunate news.  Perhaps we can draft a letter
>         to our state legislators explaining our situation with the
>         DNR, and detailing our network's contribution toward state
>         emergency communications. Maybe even including an example of
>         our wildfire report last year?
>         Dale
>         AH6ET
>         On 10/18/2021 10:07 PM, Nigel Vander Houwen wrote:
>>         Hello HamWAN volunteers/users/interested parties,
>>         As has been previously discussed on the list, there has been
>>         a lot of happenings in the background over roughly the last
>>         year with regards to DNR sites. We’ve had several sites in
>>         limbo for some time as lease holders worked with DNR to sort
>>         things out, and we had some hopeful indications that it would
>>         end up working out in the end.
>>         Unfortunately indications have greatly soured. As discussed
>>         in recent weeks, Rattlesnake and Larch Mountain were
>>         decommissioned recently, and we’ve now received official word
>>         that we’ll need to decommission Gold Mountain in the coming
>>         weeks. As much as I’d like it to end there, we are not
>>         holding our breath for Capitol Peak or Blyn.
>>         Unfortunately new rules DNR has placed on amateur leases
>>         effectively exclude use cases like HamWAN, if they were
>>         offering them at all due to DNR budget issues, and commercial
>>         rates are simply not feasible. I’m sure folks will
>>         think/suggest about additional donations to cover it, but
>>         commercial rates would require many-fold our current donation
>>         levels EVERY YEAR to make work. It’s simply not something we
>>         can reasonably consider.
>>         I’m very sorry to have to deliver this news to the many folks
>>         this will impact. This is obviously a major blow for the
>>         network. I’m thankful for the team who has put so much effort
>>         into building out these sites and maintaining the
>>         infrastructure, and I’m saddened to see that work torn down.
>>         Likewise I know there are quite a number of combined users,
>>         repeaters, and emergency groups who are going to be impacted
>>         by this. I hope that we can work with you to get you
>>         connected to another site where the pathing works.
>>         We’re not done. There’s a lot of the core network, and a lot
>>         of coverage that doesn’t rely on these DNR sites, and will
>>         remain operational. We’ll likely need to do some work to
>>         reconsider/rework redundant pathing after this loss. Going
>>         forward I’m hopeful for finding new non-DNR sites where we
>>         can rebuild and expand once more.
>>         If anyone has any specific notes or suggestions, please send
>>         us an email at netops at hamwan.org
>>         Nigel
>>         HamWAN
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>     Jamie Owens
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> John D. Hays
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