[HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Baldi LAN expansion and Rattlesnake link
dpk at randomnotes.org
Wed Jun 3 08:12:16 PDT 2020
I see 2 positive votes in this thread (Doug, Nigel) and will assume this is
approved. I need to start the backfill ordering ASAP as we are getting
into the active work season. There are a couple of inventory deficiencies
I need to fill as well. Bart has another request that I expect to see in
the next few days and that will be further depleting inventory. I will
send a separate note with an indication of planned purchases for quick
On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 1:14 PM Dale Skyllingstad <
dskyllingstad at harbornet.com> wrote:
> I fully support this project along with Jason. He and I (along with one
> other) manage our installation in the Wiztronics facility.
> Since I'm furloughed for the foreseeable future, I'm available to work on
> the install crew if/when this moves forward. We have a floorstanding rack
> in the west building of the north compound that has plenty of room for a
> switch in that building.
> On 5/31/2020 11:35 PM, Bart Kus wrote:
> Jason, glad you like this idea, as you're one one of the tenants who would
> benefit from the in-building switch access. :) We've partnered with
> another tenant who is sponsoring this build-out under his lease, so we
> don't need any further approvals. But thanks for offering to help!
> Kenny, a great question that I forgot to make clear. There is already
> conduit between all the buildings. I confirmed tonight that it's got
> sufficient capacity to run an extra CAT5. I think we only have to fish a
> ~150ft run between the middle building and the bunker, as there are spare
> CAT5s in the conduit between the middle building and north building, so
> that should just be plug-n-play. The trenching to the bunker was done
> earlier this year as a response to the awful power outages we suffered this
> winter. The north building is now tied into generator control (and
> possibly power?) of the bunker.
> On 5/31/2020 11:22 PM, Kenny Richards wrote:
> I've seen several of these e-mails about the project, but don't remember
> seeing an explanation of a key aspect.
> What is the plan to connect the buildings with gigabit Ethernet? Are you
> planning on digging a trench, stringing the CAT5 along the tree's or
> something else? Sorry, I am not familiar with the layout or location of
> these different buildings. so maybe that is a good place to start with your
> plan? Have you received permission from the site owners for this work?
> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:08 PM Jason J. Hill <Jason at pnwrr.com> wrote:
>> I like this idea. It looks like the wiztronics site would be the one
>> you'd like to put the link to rattlesnake on. Since we don't currently
>> occupy their main tower structure, we can check with them to see if a dish
>> could be covered under our current lease at no additional cost if you'd
>> ------ Original message------
>> *From: *Bart Kus
>> *Date: *Sun, May 31, 2020 10:48 PM
>> *To: *Puget Sound Data Ring;
>> *Cc: *
>> *Subject:*[HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Baldi LAN expansion and Rattlesnake link
>> We have 4 clients connected to Baldi-S1 (a SISO sector) that are kind of
>> # INTERFACE RADIO-NAME MAC-ADDRESS AP SIGNAL... TX-RATE
>> 0 wlan1 AF7PR-Baldi E4:8D:8C:C6:F5:45 no -60dBm 32.5...
>> 1 wlan1 KD7TQN-Baldi D4:CA:6D:C2:ED:93 no -65dBm 32.5...
>> 2 wlan1 N7OEP/Baldi-B... D4:CA:6D:0D:53:F9 no -60dBm 32.5...
>> 3 wlan1 Rattlesnake-B... 64:D1:54:AF:3F:CD no -79dBm 19.5...
>> They're silly because the first 3 are at the same mountain top, just a
>> couple hundred feet away in adjacent shacks. This is a waste of prime
>> long-range spectrum, being used to do local-links. I'd like to get all the
>> shacks @ Baldi tied together via gigabit Ethernet, and install access
>> switches at the 2 other shacks so people there can plug into the LAN
>> directly. This high speed LAN between all shacks can then be used to allow
>> us to address the 4th silly client, which is Rattlesnake Mountain. I'd
>> like to install a dedicated dish on the northernmost tower (fed by the new
>> high speed LAN) to act as a dedicated high speed link between Baldi and
>> Rattlesnake. The dish on the Rattlesnake side will also need a modem
>> upgrade to run at full speed, and I'm including that in this proposal.
>> Here is the rough budget for this spend request:
>> 500ft pull rope
>> 425ft duct rod
>> Taxes for above 2 items
>> CRS112-8P-4S-IN for northernmost building, feeding Rattlesnake dish w/
>> PoE and access ports for clients
>> CRS326-24G-2S+RM for middle building, acting as mid-span switch and
>> providing ports to lots of devices there
>> Taxes for above 2 items
>> 1000ft Shielded CAT5 TC-PRO ToughCable
>> Taxes for above
>> Existing Inventory Estimate: RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM modem
>> Existing Inventory Estimate: mANT30 2ft microwave dish
>> Existing Inventory Estimate: Sleeve30 2ft microwave dish isolation kit
>> TOTAL COST ESTIMATE
>> Current HamWAN balance is about $16k.
>> Procedural reminder since we haven't had one of these emails in way too
>> long: HamWAN directors have 24 hours to vote upon such spend decisions, and
>> members have the same time to weigh in with opinions to influence director
>> votes. Our procedures are documented here:
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