[HamWAN PSDR] Facts about ham fundraising
me at bartk.us
Fri Oct 4 21:19:17 PDT 2013
OK, one thing is loud and clear. We need mobile signal testing
stations. I will try to spread some extra gear out to anyone in the
group who would like to provide a mobile signal survey service to
potential users, and has the skills to operate the gear.
We'll also try to get pre-configured modems going. I'd like to sell
these @ a slight premium to just the bare hardware, with the profit
being a HamWAN donation.
The applications will come with time. We're presently working on
getting the server infrastructure in place to run applications in the
first place. BTW, Scott, can I co-locate a 1U server @ Paine? I have
it being setup here in my rack right now, but it'd be better to have it
@ Paine. It's an HP DL360 G5.
On 10/3/2013 3:48 PM, Scott Honaker wrote:
> I see three issues
> *1. Coverage - Will it work for me?*
> That's coming along nicely but is far from universal. Some demos at
> some events could really make a difference. If we can hook a couple
> EOCs together, we'll really have something! I can get introductions
> into most any EOC in the area, if we have the coverage to do a demo
> for them. Perhaps some loaner units (for a small donation) would be
> *2. Ease of installation - How can I play?*
> The price point is fantastic - about the same price as a 2m mobile
> radio. The web site is very helpful but a bit overwhelming for a
> newbie. More concise steps of what to buy and how to make it work
> would be helpful. Bart mentioned offering preconfigured radios. I
> love that idea! Plug it in, point the antenna and play.
> *3. Applications - What can I do with it?*
> Rob hinted at this with the DRATS suggestion. DRATS has a Telnet mode
> that supports chat, file transfer, email and forms - all the emcomm
> applications in a single package. Showing someone another network to
> run Outlook over isn't particularly compelling. What if Internet
> access is lost to your mail server? Well then you can't run Outlook
> on any network. We need some native HAMWAN applications. A
> "Ratflector" is an easy one, Chat, Video Conferencing, VoIP phone
> service, what else? I have some server space at the Everett site with
> a 65KW UPS and 250KW generator. We can make that stuff live on the
> network but need a champion for those services.
> Scott N7SS
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Tom Hayward <esarfl at gmail.com
> <mailto:esarfl at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I'll take a stab at a few of these points and defer the others...
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Rob Salsgiver
> <rob at quailsoftltd.net <mailto:rob at quailsoftltd.net>> wrote:
> > 2) End-users (individual): We need to get more of our core
> online and
> > well versed in the system. From those early users we need a few
> in each
> > county or metro area that are willing to do site surveys and
> interact with
> > other potential end users to get them onboard. We need to focus
> on our
> > marketing, getting the message out (with success stories), and
> more end-user
> > demonstrations -- not just the equipment, but from an
> application standpoint.
> I'll come out and do a site survey anywhere in Pierce County.
> I'll run a custom propagation model for anyone anywhere. This will
> tell you how tall of a tower you need to get HamWAN. HamWAN covers
> everything within 100 miles of a site if you have a tall enough tower
> > 3) End-users (EMCOMM): We need some served agencies
> online. We need
> > advocates outside of the ham world. Hospitals, Red Cross, Emergency
> > Management offices, Salvation Army, maybe even a mobile station.
> If we have
> > 3-4 hospitals, Red Cross chapters, or similar served agencies
> > hooked up, we have a working demonstration platform to work
> from. Even
> > then, basic connectivity isn't. We need hams in these locations to
> > demonstrate on an applications basis what can be done "when all
> else fails"
> > over HamWAN. If we can convince 30-50 different served agencies
> to shell
> > out the cost of a single cell phone each month to support a
> > Internet connection that is disaster-resilient, then you have up to
> > $2500/month coming in to support the infrastructure.
> Demonstrate email, web
> > access, and maybe even some specialized goodies targeted at them
> -- use
> > D-RATs for a tactical "chat" interface between locations -- who
> knows? Maybe
> > interface with other digital gateways or extend over other RF links
> > (D-Star?).
> The Snohomish County EOC is online with HamWAN. I'd like to see other
> EOCs come online, but we don't have contacts there. HamWAN could be
> very useful for EOC-to-EOC communications (sending video, phone,
> If you have contacts in the EmComm world, talk to them! Or see if we
> can schedule a presentation.
> Heh, D-Rats is a patch to make D-Star useful. We can just show them
> email, "Look, you can still use Outlook!" Service decoupled from
> network: awesome.
> I don't see Internet as the end goal of HamWAN. HamWAN can facilitate
> communications between hams. EOC-to-EOC communication can take place
> completely over the HamWAN RF network, until a hole opens up in the
> earth and swallows one of our sites. Then we just route around the
> outage with Internet; communication continues.
> Tom KD7LXL
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