[HamWAN PSDR] Facts about ham fundraising

Bart Kus me at bartk.us
Fri Oct 4 21:19:17 PDT 2013

OK, one thing is loud and clear.  We need mobile signal testing 
stations.  I will try to spread some extra gear out to anyone in the 
group who would like to provide a mobile signal survey service to 
potential users, and has the skills to operate the gear.

We'll also try to get pre-configured modems going.  I'd like to sell 
these @ a slight premium to just the bare hardware, with the profit 
being a HamWAN donation.

The applications will come with time.  We're presently working on 
getting the server infrastructure in place to run applications in the 
first place.  BTW, Scott, can I co-locate a 1U server @ Paine?  I have 
it being setup here in my rack right now, but it'd be better to have it 
@ Paine.  It's an HP DL360 G5.


On 10/3/2013 3:48 PM, Scott Honaker wrote:
> I see three issues
> *1.  Coverage - Will it work for me?*
> That's coming along nicely but is far from universal.  Some demos at 
> some events could really make a difference.  If we can hook a couple 
> EOCs together, we'll really have something! I can get introductions 
> into most any EOC in the area, if we have the coverage to do a demo 
> for them.  Perhaps some loaner units (for a small donation) would be 
> interesting.
> *2.  Ease of installation - How can I play?*
> The price point is fantastic - about the same price as a 2m mobile 
> radio.  The web site is very helpful but a bit overwhelming for a 
> newbie.  More concise steps of what to buy and how to make it work 
> would be helpful.  Bart mentioned offering preconfigured radios.  I 
> love that idea!  Plug it in, point the antenna and play.
> *3.  Applications - What can I do with it?*
> Rob hinted at this with the DRATS suggestion.  DRATS has a Telnet mode 
> that supports chat, file transfer, email and forms - all the emcomm 
> applications in a single package.  Showing someone another network to 
> run Outlook over isn't particularly compelling.  What if Internet 
> access is lost to your mail server?  Well then you can't run Outlook 
> on any network.  We need some native HAMWAN applications.  A 
> "Ratflector" is an easy one, Chat, Video Conferencing, VoIP phone 
> service, what else?  I have some server space at the Everett site with 
> a 65KW UPS and 250KW generator.  We can make that stuff live on the 
> network but need a champion for those services.
> Scott N7SS
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Tom Hayward <esarfl at gmail.com 
> <mailto:esarfl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     I'll take a stab at a few of these points and defer the others...
>     On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Rob Salsgiver
>     <rob at quailsoftltd.net <mailto:rob at quailsoftltd.net>> wrote:
>     > 2)      End-users (individual):  We need to get more of our core
>     online and
>     > well versed in the system.  From those early users we need a few
>     in each
>     > county or metro area that are willing to do site surveys and
>     interact with
>     > other potential end users to get them onboard.  We need to focus
>     on our
>     > marketing, getting the message out (with success stories), and
>     more end-user
>     > demonstrations -- not just the equipment, but from an
>     application standpoint.
>     I'll come out and do a site survey anywhere in Pierce County.
>     I'll run a custom propagation model for anyone anywhere. This will
>     tell you how tall of a tower you need to get HamWAN. HamWAN covers
>     everything within 100 miles of a site if you have a tall enough tower
>     ;-)
>     > 3)      End-users (EMCOMM):  We need some served agencies
>     online.  We need
>     > advocates outside of the ham world.  Hospitals, Red Cross, Emergency
>     > Management offices, Salvation Army, maybe even a mobile station.
>      If we have
>     > 3-4 hospitals, Red Cross chapters, or similar served agencies
>     successfully
>     > hooked up, we have a working demonstration platform to work
>     from.  Even
>     > then, basic connectivity isn't.  We need hams in these locations to
>     > demonstrate on an applications basis what can be done "when all
>     else fails"
>     > over HamWAN.  If we can convince 30-50 different served agencies
>     to shell
>     > out the cost of a single cell phone each month to support a
>     dedicated
>     > Internet connection that is disaster-resilient, then you have up to
>     > $2500/month coming in to support the infrastructure.
>      Demonstrate email, web
>     > access, and maybe even some specialized goodies targeted at them
>     -- use
>     > D-RATs for a tactical "chat" interface between locations -- who
>     knows?  Maybe
>     > interface with other digital gateways or extend over other RF links
>     > (D-Star?).
>     The Snohomish County EOC is online with HamWAN. I'd like to see other
>     EOCs come online, but we don't have contacts there. HamWAN could be
>     very useful for EOC-to-EOC communications (sending video, phone,
>     etc.).
>     If you have contacts in the EmComm world, talk to them! Or see if we
>     can schedule a presentation.
>     Heh, D-Rats is a patch to make D-Star useful. We can just show them
>     email, "Look, you can still use Outlook!" Service decoupled from
>     network: awesome.
>     I don't see Internet as the end goal of HamWAN. HamWAN can facilitate
>     communications between hams. EOC-to-EOC communication can take place
>     completely over the HamWAN RF network, until a hole opens up in the
>     earth and swallows one of our sites. Then we just route around the
>     outage with Internet; communication continues.
>     Tom KD7LXL
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